ProArms

4
January
2009

018 Crimson Trace Laser Grips and Laser Sights Review

Finally we present our much awaited, much requested episode on Crimson Trace Laser Grips and Sights. We all use them for a variety of purposes and hope we can answer some of our listener questions here.

First we’ll start off with a link to Crimson Trace so you can see just what we are talking about: http://www.crimsontrace.com/

Chris Christian could not be with us on the day we recorded so we are posting what he had to say here:

Many shooters find that with just minimal practice the CTC sights can be instinctual to use in a stress situation. You know that I’m a well trained shooter, practice regularly, and am always among the Most Accurate at the one or two IDPA matches I shoot each month. I know what iron sights look like, and how to use them I also have CTCs on three “working” guns. The CTCs are zeroed, but I don’t practice with the lasers much at all ( I may go months without firing a single round with them).Virtually all my practice is with my iron sighted match guns. NOW.. WITH ALL THAT SAID… When I went through LFI 1 last year we did the video “Shoot/Don’t Shoot” drills. Steve’s J-frame (empty) with CTC was the gun we used. There is a significant degree of stress facing the video with the whole class watching. Your conscious mind is attempting to evaluate the situation and take the proper course of action. The first scenario I faced was the old fart with the crowbar at the back of the house who suddenly turns and charges you with it raised. It happens very fast! I quickly double tapped him in the upper COM (Sniper’s Triangle, Golden Triangle, whatever you want to call it). Steve commented ” Good hits.” I knew they were because I could see the laser. BUT I DO NOT CONSCIOUSLY REMEMBER SEEING THE IRON SIGHTS. When that threat materialized quickly, under stress, the gun was properly presented to the target and that bright red dot became my immediate sub-conscious focus point. It overrode years of iron sight training. It completely dominated my sub-conscious mind and the double tap hits were instinctive. If the laser had not been present I would have made hits with the iron sights… but not as fast, and not as accurately. My experience… and my opinion… is that a shooter with some level of training will bring the gun on target, and seek some degree of sight picture/sight alignment. If the laser isn’t visible due to light levels or background it is a non-factor, ignored by the sub-conscious, and iron sight training takes over. If the laser is brightly visible it seems to AUTOMATICALLY OVERRIDE that… sub-consciously… and becomes the focal point. And, it doesn’t seem to take a lot of training to have that occur. When things happen quick & close that bright red dot will drive the sub-conscious mind, Just a thought. Chris

First Video is Mas demonstrating how the Crimson Trace Lasers can be used for teaching and improving your own shooting.

John Demonstrates Sighting in the Crimson Trace Laser

John Demonstrates Shooting the “TexasStar” with Crimson Trace Laser Grips

John Shooting a target from 25 yds using Crimson trace grips on a S&W 442 with the CTC LG405

The Target from the video above.

The different CTC Laser Grips we talked about in the Podcast. From top to bottom: S&W 642 with LG-205 S&W 442 with LG-305 S&W 442 with LG- 405 (gun has Robar NP3 finish)

Gail’s Ruger LCP with Crimson Trace Laser showing the different configuration used for this gun.

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21
December
2008

017A Homing in on the Defensive Shotgun

It’s our last episode of the year and it is Magnum sized, so big that we had to divide it into two parts so be sure that you get both parts! (A double-barreled podcast, so to speak.) In response to lots of listener feedback and questions we thought that we would discuss the shotgun for home defense. We did a lot of shotgun shooting last week in an LFI class and we did some testing. We compared the use of the 12ga. vs. 20ga. shotgun for home defense with some commonly available and similar loads. Both shotguns were fired at a distance of seven yards from the target.

The first Picture is from a 20ga. shotgun loaded with #3 Buckshot:

Second picture is from a 12 ga. Shotgun loaded with #4 Buckshot:

The subject of the Taurus Judge came up in our discussion of the .410 load. This picture was also posted on the forum but it bears repeating here:

This pattern was fired at five feet from the Judge with a 2 ½” .410 birdshot cartridge. Taurus Judge caught at the instant of discharge. Round is 2 ½” .410.