It’s been a while since we had one of our round-table discussions so this week we decides to get together and discuss revolvers, a lot of things but not everything about revolvers. We have a lot of videos demonstrating reloading techniques for the revolver below. Oh, and if you tried to count up how many years of experience with revolvers we have had, that we enumerated on the podcast it come up to at least 245.
First is Denny Reichard Sand Burr Gun Ranch who specializes in the Smith & Wesson revolver. He is the owner in Rochester, Indiana. A great place to shoot, buy guns, get guns fixed or just hang out. This interview was done in an open barn so please try to ignore the annoying bird.
We also talk to Ray Saltzman who specializes in the 1911 and high performance rifles. He can be reached at:
Saltzman Gun Works
765-675-2040
3896 South 400 West
Tipton, IN 46072
sgwi@tds.net
We also talked briefly with a representative from ATK about the current ammo shortage back in April when we were at the ILEETA conference, seems like not much has changed since then.
Finally we present our much awaited, much requested episode on Crimson Trace Laser Grips and Sights. We all use them for a variety of purposes and hope we can answer some of our listener questions here.
First we’ll start off with a link to Crimson Trace so you can see just what we are talking about:
http://www.crimsontrace.com/
Chris Christian could not be with us on the day we recorded so we are posting what he had to say here:
Many shooters find that with just minimal practice the CTC sights can be instinctual to use in a stress situation.
You know that I’m a well trained shooter, practice regularly, and am always among the Most Accurate at the one or two IDPA matches I shoot each month. I know what iron sights look like, and how to use them I also have CTCs on three “working” guns. The CTCs are zeroed, but I don’t practice with the lasers much at all ( I may go months without firing a single round with them).Virtually all my practice is with my iron sighted match guns.
NOW.. WITH ALL THAT SAID… When I went through LFI 1 last year we did the video “Shoot/Don’t Shoot” drills. Steve’s J-frame (empty) with CTC was the gun we used. There is a significant degree of stress facing the video with the whole class watching. Your conscious mind is attempting to evaluate the situation and take the proper course of action. The first scenario I faced was the old fart with the crowbar at the back of the house who suddenly turns and charges you with it raised. It happens very fast! I quickly double tapped him in the upper COM (Sniper’s Triangle, Golden Triangle, whatever you want to call it). Steve commented ” Good hits.”
I knew they were because I could see the laser. BUT I DO NOT CONSCIOUSLY REMEMBER SEEING THE IRON SIGHTS. When that threat materialized quickly, under stress, the gun was properly presented to the target and that bright red dot became my immediate sub-conscious focus point. It overrode years of iron sight training. It completely dominated my sub-conscious mind and the double tap hits were instinctive. If the laser had not been present I would have made hits with the iron sights… but not as fast, and not as accurately.
My experience… and my opinion… is that a shooter with some level of training will bring the gun on target, and seek some degree of sight picture/sight alignment. If the laser isn’t visible due to light levels or background it is a non-factor, ignored by the sub-conscious, and iron sight training takes over. If the laser is brightly visible it seems to AUTOMATICALLY OVERRIDE that… sub-consciously… and becomes the focal point. And, it doesn’t seem to take a lot of training to have that occur. When things happen quick & close that bright red dot will drive the sub-conscious mind,
Just a thought.
Chris
First Video is Mas demonstrating how the Crimson Trace Lasers can be used for teaching and improving your own shooting.
John Demonstrates Sighting in the Crimson Trace Laser
John Demonstrates Shooting the “TexasStar” with Crimson Trace Laser Grips
John Shooting a target from 25 yds using Crimson trace grips on a S&W 442 with the CTC LG405
The Target from the video above.
The different CTC Laser Grips we talked about in the Podcast. From top to bottom:
S&W 642 with LG-205
S&W 442 with LG-305
S&W 442 with LG- 405 (gun has Robar NP3 finish)
Gail’s Ruger LCP with Crimson Trace Laser showing the different configuration used for this gun.
The ProArms team tries something different for this episode. Normally our producer (me) spends a lot of time editing each podcast, taking out the umms, ahhhs, creaks and any bad words that might occur. This time we are presenting it to you in all its unedited glory. Don’t worry; it still has a PG rating. Sometimes we talk at the same time and interrupt each other. Here you will see what one of our recording sessions really sounds like. Go on over to the Gun Rights Radio forum to let us know if you like this episode; just click the box in the upper left hand side of this page to get there. We talked about so much in this podcast all the links are listed below along with a couple of gun specific fora that may be of interest to aficionados of a particular brand.
Breaking News: Federal Ammunition 125 grain Nyclad hollowpoint standard pressure load to be unveiled at SHOT show 2009. You won’t find it on the website yet.
First Issue Colt Detective Special introduced in 1927, this one was made in 1930
First Generation Smith & Wesson Chief’s Special introduced in 1950. Note the flat cylinder latch, round front sight and “baby sized” trigger guard. The hammer had been “bobbed” by a previous owner.
The Newest incarnation of the “J” frame S&W M&P revolver the model 340 in .357 magnum; it was introduced in 2006. Here it is pictured with a left handed Safariland pocket holster
“Big Dot” sight comes standard on the current M&P
Gail’s favorite BBQ gun, the Colt Agent nicknamed “The Black Pearl” bought at Chuck’s Gun Shop in Riverdale, Illinois
Steve is back and in this episode the ProArms Team runs the Smith & Wesson M&P auto pistols through their paces at a local IDPA match. Mas gives us a history of the M&P and other polymer pistols made by S&W. Chris, who has been a big M&P fan for quite some time, gives us his opinions and he has a lot of them. You can contact Kenny Dickerson, whom Chris mentions more than once, through Speed Shooters Specialties. Then the whole ProArms team gives their impressions of how the guns fared at the match and in general. Herman, who chose to stick with his M&P revolver, has some interesting observations too. Several of the team members have trained a lot of folks to shoot M&Ps, and its ability to adapt to different shooters is knowledgeably discussed. Learn what major police departments have adopted the M&P pistol, in all four of the calibers in which it is offered. The latest news on international police sales can be seen here. Mas mentions that he was using a TKW holster; TKW does not have a website but can be contacted at: tkwholsters@comcast.net.
The Smith & Wesson M&Ps we shot for this episode were pictured from Left to right:
M&P 9 Pro – Mas, M&P 9 – Gail, M&P .45 - John, M&P 9 - Chris, M&P .45 Manual Safety - Roger Clark, M&P Model 10 .38 Revolver - Herman
John
Herman upholds the M&P tradition with the original, a S&W Model 10.
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