When Andy Brown was a 25 year old Airforce Security Policeman at Fairchild AFB in Washington he single-handedly stop an active killer who had already killed or injured injured over 25 people. Andy shared his story with a recent LFI class and gave us permission to share his story with our listeners. This is a very moving story and conjures up some very disturbing images, yet is a story worth telling and hearing from a young man who was truly a hero that day.
We shoot a match “mirror image” meaning that everything is done exactly opposite of what you usually do. In this case we were all right handed, meaning we had our holsters on the left and magazines on the right, revolver shooters had their speedloaders on the left since they usually carry them on their gun side. Hear the many reasons why we did it, and what we learned.
Kevin, making a mirror-image re-load of his Springfield Armory 1911The Assortment of holsters and guns we used for the “mirror image” match
This Episode takes us back to Indiana where Mas and Gail had a conversation with Keith Jones, a veteran Police officer as well as a military combat veteran. Join us as we talk to Keith about what he has learned over the years.
This week we travel up to New Hampshire and are joined by the recently retired Chief of Police of Grantham, Russ Lary. Together we visit the Ruger plant where they make all of the long guns and revolvers. Our focus is mainly on the SR-556 but we also check out where the other guns are made; particularly the LCR. We have pictures of hundreds of guns getting ready to ship, there’s no shortage here, they’re making them as fast as they realistically can. They have a new manufacturing paradigm at Ruger, now they can rapidly ramp up production on the guns that they have more orders for. For instance the 10/22s are turned out at a rate of 2 rifles per minute, while the manufacturing cells of the less ordered guns may have one or two people working in them.
We shot two different SR-556s at two different ranges with excellent results at both sessions. The guns ran smoothly, even with rapid fire, we got good groups and we experienced no malfunctions at all, with several different types of ammo.
In the second segment we talk with Russ about his opinion of the SR-556 and what he thinks of the rifle’s future in the military and law enforcement, despite the fact the company is only marketing to the civilian market right now.
Racks of SR-556 Rifles in the assembly process
Russ Lary testing the SR-556 at the range.There’s no gun shortage here, racks of guns getting ready to be test fired and shipped.
First is Denny Reichard Sand Burr Gun Ranch who specializes in the Smith & Wesson revolver. He is the owner in Rochester, Indiana. A great place to shoot, buy guns, get guns fixed or just hang out. This interview was done in an open barn so please try to ignore the annoying bird.
We also talk to Ray Saltzman who specializes in the 1911 and high performance rifles. He can be reached at:
Saltzman Gun Works
765-675-2040
3896 South 400 West
Tipton, IN 46072
sgwi@tds.net
We also talked briefly with a representative from ATK about the current ammo shortage back in April when we were at the ILEETA conference, seems like not much has changed since then.
To fill in our podcast notes on the Hi-Power episode, #28, the first thing we have to tell you is that we neglected something so basic to Browning Hi-Power shooters that all the experienced people who fit that description on the podcast forgot to mention it. While the gun has always been listed as a fourteen-shot pistol (thirteen in the magazine, one more in the chamber) Team ProArms goes with the collective wisdom that it is usually wise to download the magazine by one. Mas notes that when he was in England, British SAS troopies told him they were penalized a day without pay for each Hi-Power magazine they were found carrying with more than twelve rounds. Apparently squeezing in the thirteenth round not only makes reloading difficult with the slide forward (no flex left in the magazine spring due to densely packed cartridge stack), but for the same reason causes additional friction drag between the topmost cartridge and the bottom of the slide as the pistol cycles after the first shot. This, characteristically, causes a jam between the first and second shots. While it doesn’t happen with all Hi-Power magazines, it has happened with so many that we recommend downloading to twelve per mag.
Jargon Alerts:
The magazine article Mas is heard quoting from is one that he wrote several years ago for the magazine The Accurate Rifle. The article is here.
“Flinger-Dinger” is the local terminology (in Suwannee County anyway) for what is more commonly known as the Rotator target. For complete description go to the link provided here for Safe Direction, the steel target company run by Steve Camp in Illinois.
To add to the confusion, two men with the same name come into play here. The other Stephen Camp is the Browning Hi-Power authority who runs the website hipowersandhandguns.com, which all of us at Team ProArms strongly recommend.
CAVIM is the acronym for the Venezuelan company that manufactures very hot NATO spec 9mm Parabellum ammunition.
Ed Lovette, mentioned in the podcast, is a former CIA operative and current writer and trainer whose work appears in Combat Handguns magazine. We here all know Ed and strongly recommend that good gun people become familiar with his work.
The two gunsmiths most prominently mentioned in the podcast for top-level “carry gun” Hi-Power modifications are Wayne Novak at Novak’s .45 Shop in West Virginia, and Bill Laughridge (pronounced “LOCK-ridge”) who owns the Cylinder and Slide Shop in Nebraska.
For information on the Polite Society combat match and Tactical Conference, go to www.rangemaster.com. Gail and Mas both went this year and found it pleasant and instructive, and Gail took High Lady honors at the match.
The book mentioned as the best reference on the topic is “The Browning High Power Automatic Pistol” by R. Blake Stevens, published in 1990 in Ontario by Collector Grade Publications. Also of interest is “Inglis Diamond: The Canadian High Power Pistol” by Clive M. Law, from the same publisher.
This podcast came directly from listener feedback that we received at the ProArms section of GRRN, Gun Rights Radio Network. We’re eager to hear your feedback, and your ideas for future podcasts. One we’ve already decided to do and are planning for, at listener request, is an episode focusing on the AR15.
Oh…and don’t forget to stick around at the end of the podcast for the comments by Rod Blagojevich and his wife, Patti.
Parts made in Belgium, gun assembled in Portugal, this Mark III Hi-Power 9mm is currently available at ProArms and is an excellent example of current “best of breed.”
This is Mas’ 7.65mm (.30 Luger) Hi-Power, bought for teaching and carrying in a South American nation where out-of-country concealed carry permits are available, but no one except local police and military can carry anything larger than .32 caliber.
This is Mas’ Browning Hi-Power 9mm customized by Bill Laughridge at Cylinder & Slide Shop. He has carried it from Washington State to England to South Africa.
To our knowledge, the only “made in USA” Hi-Power, from Charles Daly. Sights are XS Express.
Original style Hi-Power burr or rowel hammer configuration pinches web of hand upon firing, as shown.
Spur type hammer just misses hitting average size hand of this male shooter. Shortening hammer spur will save bigger hands from impact.
IDPA Five-Gun Master Jon Strayer shoots his Hi-Power. Spent casing is going past head but gun is still on target. Controllability is one thing master shooters love about this gun.
Mas demonstrates how to lower hammer of Hi-Power without inserting a magazine or removing magazine disconnector safety. Seen from above with slide removed for visibility, right hand is holding gun-frame, left hand middle fingertip pad is pressing the disconnector forward. Without magazine, hammer will now fall when trigger is pulled.
Another Episode from the road, This time at the ILEETA conference in Wheeling IL
We have 3 interviews. First we talk to Lou Ann Hamblin a police trainer who, we found out the next day after we did our interview, won the Iron Cop Competition. She discusses a couple of women Police Officers that she uses as examples of officer survival and staying in the fight. Below Are links to more information about them.
Next, we talk to the inventor of a new product the Train Safe a firearm barrel block that gives everyone visual evidence of a disabled firearm even with chamber closed. I thought this would be great for dry-fire practice and really would have come in handy in a class I recently attended where the instructor swept the entire class, he had checked his gun and I guess we were supposed to take his word for it because he stood by his technique even when called on his unsafe behavior. I don’t even like guns that I have checked myself to by pointed at any part of my body. A product like this could eliminate that problem.
Finally we talk to Ron Borsch who has researched Active-Killer shootings and analyzed the results, his conclusion is that 50% of these shootings are stopped by unarmed citizens and another 25% are stopped by armed citizens. He challenges the police department policies that prescribe that officers wait for orders before entering a building with an active-killing in progress. It is a very interesting discussion that although what he teaches is for police officers only, there are significant implications for the armed citizen. We include his handout with his permission.
Links to some of the stories Ron Borsch refers to:
This week some of the ProArms Team is on the road gathering new and exciting interviews. So, we went into the file of choice interviews that we save for special occasions. We start off with a great interview Gail did with Tom Gresham last June when they were in Hannibal Mo, filming segments for Personal Defense TV.
Next we, we have recent interviews with two very special women. First you’ll meet Kate Krueger, who owns Derby Guns in Scottsdale, Arizona and has flourished in a world where gun shops are traditionally run by males. Finally, hear the inspiring story of 21-year-old Anna Gunter’s journey into both armed and unarmed combat skills, and how she, alone, backed down a gang of punks who approached her with obvious nefarious intent.
We got our hands on a Ruger LCR and put it to the test in this episode of the ProArms Podcast. To see a picture of a dismantled LCR check out our pictures from episode 19. In addition check out Steve’s article on the LCR at Officer.com
A 21st century revolver amid some 21st accoutrements.
The Group Steve shot with the LCR that we talked about in the Podcast
The Ruger LCR shown with the Galco pocket holster
The LCR with Gail’s Blade Tech holster made for the SP 101
Each member of the ProArms Podcast Team shares some of their training regimen with the listeners.
There’s not too much text for this episode; first the links and then on to the videos.
The targets you see Steve and Gail shoot are available at: RTKBA Targets
The target Herman is shooting is the Optional USPSA Target from: Target Barn
John talks about the CED7000 timer which most of us use is available here: CED timer
The article Gail refers to is : Drills for the Public Range by Andy Kemp, who also offers excellent training in Illinois and Idaho.
Steve shows us how to trust our “wobble zone” in Shake, Rattle and Roll
Mike stresses how important is is to practice with your non-dominant hand.
Mas practices re-loading and maintaining sustained fire
Herman shows us how he practices a “Focus Drill”
Terri, who excels at distance shooting demonstrates her long range “Focus Drill”.
In this video you can really see how she deals with being cross-eye dominant, she is right handed with a dominant left eye.
John demonstrates String three of the IDPA classifier.
Chris does the “Gunsite Drill” and a drill of his own.
Gail shows how we can adapt to practice/train on a public range.
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The Assortment of holsters and guns we used for the “mirror image” match 
There’s no gun shortage here, racks of guns getting ready to be test fired and shipped.
